Jonathan: Please trace this problem with Gregg Diskin from CMU. He believes this is a problem with software CMU distributed and not KFW. He is responsible for the distribution of KFW at CMU. If this is not the case, it is a problem with KFW and I will fix it. However, before I can do so you must respond to my second e-mail from last night. I need to know: * what software you are running? * is the software using kclient? kerberos 4? kerberos 5? or Leash interfaces? You have described the problem both as a crash and a hang. * if there is a crash, what is crashing? where is the error? * if there is a hang? define what you mean by a hang? Please perform all testing using KFW 2.6.4 Beta 2. Thank you. Jeffrey Altman