Hi, Sam. Actually, I'm developping RFC 4430 (KINK) protocol conformance tester which uses krb5-1.6.3 as the Kerberos engine. And I'm using kinkd in Racoon2 as the counterpart implementation now. * Racoon2 is IKEv1/IKEv2/KINK IPsec daemon developped by The Racoon2 Project which is one of WGs in WIDE Project in Japan. Racoon2 has its own PRF function, and the function expects 16 bytes PRF. Now, I changed prf_length from 16 bytes to 8 bytes in krb5_enctypes_list for ENCTYPE_DES3_CBC_SHA1 on my side (MIT Kerberos implementation). But I think that MIT Kerberos implementation itself still expects 16 bytes PRF. I performed following 2 tests under this environment. test 1) When I use 8 bytes output buffer for generated PRF, following validation is not passed. 43 if (input->length != output->length) 44 return(KRB5_BAD_MSIZE); test 2) When I expect 16 bytes output buffer for generated PRF (prf_length is still set 8 bytes), following validation is not passed. 80 krb5_c_prf_length (context, key->enctype, &len); 81 if( len != output->length) 82 return (KRB5_CRYPTO_INTERNAL); For the reason of above failure, I found the following code in krb5int_dk_prf() function. 48 tmp.length = hash->hashsize; 49 tmp.data = malloc(hash->hashsize); 50 if (tmp.data == NULL) 51 return ENOMEM; 52 hash->hash(1, in, &tmp); 53 tmp.length = (tmp.length/enc->block_size)*enc->block_size; /*truncate to block size*/ The initial tmp.length (line 48) is 20 bytes under des3-cbc-hmac-sha1-kd. At the same time, enc->block_size is 8 bytes. Finally, tmp.length (line 53) will be 16 bytes. This buffer (tmp) will be passed into enc->encrypt(), that is k5_des3_encrypt(). That is why I guess that MIT implementation expects 16 bytes PRF. How do you think? Regards, On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:47:53 +0000 (UTC) "Sam Hartman via RT" wrote: > Based on the discussions on the ietf-krb-wg list, I'd expect the DES3 > PRF output to be 8 bytes not 16. > What environment do you have where you would expect 16 bytes. > > _______________________________________________ > krb5-bugs mailing list > krb5-bugs@mit.edu > https://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/krb5-bugs > -- Yukiyo Akisada