If you try to get credentials for a service shortly after a ticket expires, klist shows that you get several copies of the service ticket in your credential cache. (None of them work.) I run into this fairly often with a 2-hour-lifetime ccache for my root instance, when I'm logging into servers right around when the ticket expires. I've also heard this happens reasonably often with zephyr/zephyr. mega-man:~ geofft$ kinit -l1m Password for geofft@ATHENA.MIT.EDU: [wait a little more than one minute] mega-man:~ geofft$ ssh athena.dialup Password: mega-man:~ geofft$ klist Ticket cache: FILE:/tmp/cc Default principal: geofft@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Valid starting Expires Service principal 08/22/11 20:40:44 08/22/11 20:41:44 krbtgt/ATHENA.MIT.EDU@ATHENA.MIT.EDU 08/22/11 20:42:01 08/22/11 20:41:44 host/buzzword-bingo.mit.edu@ATHENA.MIT.EDU 08/22/11 20:42:01 08/22/11 20:41:44 host/buzzword-bingo.mit.edu@ATHENA.MIT.EDU 08/22/11 20:42:01 08/22/11 20:41:44 host/buzzword-bingo.mit.edu@ATHENA.MIT.EDU 08/22/11 20:42:01 08/22/11 20:41:44 host/buzzword-bingo.mit.edu@ATHENA.MIT.EDU 08/22/11 20:42:01 08/22/11 20:41:44 host/buzzword-bingo.mit.edu@ATHENA.MIT.EDU 08/22/11 20:42:01 08/22/11 20:41:44 host/buzzword-bingo.mit.edu@ATHENA.MIT.EDU -- Geoffrey Thomas geofft@mit.edu