I have a box which has no permanent IP addresses except those which are configured on loopback device. Something like ppp server with pile of serial lines and no ethernet at all. On loopback there is usual 127.0.0.1/8 address configured and also 1.2.3.4/8 address which is a "server address" to use for ppp clients for DNS etc. kdc cannot start on it if there is no active ppp interfaces. If there are active ppp's, it starts, but don't reply from 1.2.3.4 because it has sockets bound to ppp ip address(es) only, which are dynamic. I have a patch which remedies this using just one socket bound to 0.0.0.0 and recvmsg/IP_PKTINFO trick. Would it be revieved or maybe you have some fundamental reasons against it? -- vda